BETA SNES Rumble support

[darthcloud]

This build add support for SNES rumble as per Doom FX3 specification.

You need to enable rumble in BlueRetro config:
https://github.com/darthcloud/BlueRetro/wiki/BlueRetro-BLE-Web-Config-User-Manual#26---example-enable-rumble

Can be used with either Starfox Shindou Edition or Limited Run test rom

This will work with any BlueRetro that was built with multitap support.

Look like both variant available on aliexpress are compatible.
Use same beta as the SW2 one here:
#1261 (comment)

See demo:
https://youtube.com/shorts/PJMMmXi9NC8

[elchhome]

Hi darthcloud,

unfortunately it's not working for me.
I'm using such an aliexpress core with a dual port snes adapter cable:
BlueRetro for PS1 PS2 NGC N64 NES SNES DC SS GEN Core Adapter Cable Wireless Game Controller Converter

I've tested a WiiU and a switch pro controller, but there was no rumble effect after updating to the beta fw.
I've tried the Limited Run test rom RT.SFC with my sd2snes and as well the new Castlevania nes-to-snes port with rumble support by Rumbleminze without success.

Is there any data that I could supply which would help debugging this problem?

Cheers, Andi

PS: Your Blueretro implementation was a gamechanger for me. Great work!

[darthcloud]

You could take the DB25 apart and take picture, it's likely missing the extra cables.

I still like to see someone report about the 1 player dongle one that is on aliexpress also.

[elchhome]

Hope this helps:

[darthcloud]

The lines are there but it's not my PCB design so its hard to tell if they are wired properly. Other than that double check you are running the proper FW version by checking in the web config at the top after connection.

[darthcloud]

You also need to enable rumble in the config:
https://github.com/darthcloud/BlueRetro/wiki/BlueRetro-BLE-Web-Config-User-Manual#26---example-enable-rumble

[elchhome]

Yeah, this was the culprit. After enabling rumble in the config it works now.
The rumble with the WiiU controller is more intense compared to the Switch Pro controller though.
Thanks for the help

[Dragoonglue]

For some reason while using this firmware, my Super Famicom's BlueRetro adapter automatically connects to my Pokémon Go Plus+, which isn't even a controller. Had to revert to an older one.

[drackybrok]

I can confirm rumble works on the retroscaler snes dongle though I don't know if all the signals are generating the right rumble strengths across different controllers.

[tylerwittreich]

Hello, tried installing v25.07-beta-26-g4beea29_hw1.zip universal bin via OAT such that I can get it working with the new switch 2 gamecube controller, but now the blueretro gamecube adapter has the led on solid blue, where the button on the front for pair/reset right next to the led no longer work. But the main issue is that the adapter is now no longer broadcasting Bluetooth, such that I can no longer connect to it via the OTA webapp to try to get it unbricked. Is there any solution forward since the adapter does not have usb?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C5M5ZB7K

[darthcloud]

You probably needed to use the gamecube FW with that device, not universal. Not much you can do without a usb port.

[tylerwittreich]

Ok cool, appreciate the response, but then would you say for choosing the gamecube FW with that device, if that would be an advised probably or an unadvised probably, if I were to try it on another one of those adapters I have lying around?

Then more longer term, is there a rough timeline on when there will be an official release with the switch 2 compatible gamecube controller? Only asking cause then manufacturers like(BitFUNX: (RetroScaler NGC Wireless Controller Adapter for 4x controllers) which have a usb port as a fallback if it becomes bricked), but they require a custom version of your repo to get it working with their version(https://github.com/RetroScaler/NGC-BlueRetro), which they likely won't update until there is an official release upstream.

[tylerwittreich]

Darthcloud, my boy, my boy Blue, shhhhh it's all ok now, pretty bird, pretty bird..
-FYI: Was able to get the new switch 2 gamecube controller 100% working with another BlueRetro lying around using BlueRetro_hw1_gamecube

[RayCommend]

Hi Darthcloud. I picked up the retroscaler SNES adapter and am using firmware v25.10-beta-2-g83e989b_hw1 for the new SNES rumble games. It works on the following: Castlevania SNES port, Super Mario Kart and StarFox Shindou.

The one game that has an issue with my adapter is the recent Mike Tyson's Punch Out MSU-1 Port by Infidelity. On this game, the rumble works, but the game controls do not during a match. Strangely enough, they do work on the name select screen. This happens on my non-1chip SNES and Super NT. Not sure if it's a known or widespread issue, but just wanted to report my results. Thanks!

[elchhome]

I can confirm this as well. But there are other problems as well. I've modded my PAL SNES with the SNES MultiRegion board:
https://github.com/borti4938/SNES_MultiRegion_with_DeJitter_QID/blob/master/old.pcbs/Installation_SNES-3Chip_MR_QID.pdf

With this beta FW it's hard to do the double reset. I have press the button combos several times and sometimes it doesn't register it at all.
I'll flash it back to the release FW and check again, but I think everything worked fine before the update.

[elchhome]

@darthcloud
With flashing the device back to v25_04 everything works fine. The Ninja Gaiden Triology port from Infidelity had problems with the beta release as well. The selected game wouldn't start, because the button press wasn't registered. That works now again with the official release.

[mario-64]

Infidelity has found and fixed the issue with his NES to SNES conversions and 3rd party controllers, including BlueRetro. He has released updated versions of all 16 of them. See https://x.com/infidelity_nes/status/1977539157846065182?s=61

[elchhome]

Thanks for the info! This was new to me.
Hmm, I'll try the new versions later for sure, but this doesn't explain my problems with the beta FW using the key combinations for doing the double reset, changing the modes (pal, ntsc, auto) on my SNES, while everything works fine with the release FW.

[elchhome]

Yes, the NES ports by Infidelity are working now. 👍
@darthcloud problem is still, that I cannot do the double reset (L+R+Select+Blue) and changing the modes (L+R+Select+Red/Yellow/Green) on my SNES, while it works with v25.4.
Maybe the culprit is that the rumble confuses the 4 button combo's?!

[ValadAmoleo]

Hmm I can not get this to work on any of the Rumble patches.

Using an SD2SNES with NTSC Rumble patched ROMs on a region modified PAL SNES. A RetroScaler branded BlueRetro with an 8BitDo SF30 Pro

Unfortunately I can't get the actual connector open and it's all obscured by glue.