Select by Genre #562
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I think this request could be grouped together with this one (Spotify categories/genres). One of the issues will be that different providers may use different genre classifications. A song may be classified as Rock on Spotify but Alternative on Youtube and Heavy Metal in your own MP3 collection. But it would definitely be a nice feature. I often play Spotify using a category (genre) instead of a playlist. |
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Genre classifications are by their very nature vague, which is why Music Brainz tends to assign multiple genres to a single track. Multiple sorts would help navigate large collections even faster. |
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I have a lot of albums, both popmusic and classical music. |
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Related to https://github.com/orgs/music-assistant/discussions/535 |
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As is stated above, genres are generally a vague thing, and may even select only some songs on an album. I would like to see a more generalised method by building filters from which songs are played.
Think of this as dynamic playlists similar to the 'radio' feature. |
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automated playlists per genre or decade would fit in quite nicely as wel. |
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So im just curious. Im a new user of MA and i was coming from Logitech Media Server or now called Lyrion. I was surprised to see no option for genre.. SO maybe there's another way im not familiar with. I have about 1000 albums ripped and stored on a NAS. they all have clean tags (MP3 and FLAC) and the genre tags are accurate for my liking - meaning i may call something 'rock' and others may call it 'pop'. But anyway, so now i want to listen to some of my jazz but not sure what artist or album.. so i want to see all my jazz artists.. then i pick an artist and then i can see all the albums and i choose one.. HOw do i do soehtign like that in MA? I really dont want to sift through 1000 albums to pick out all the jazz artists etc.. I just dont understand how sorting by genre isnt a day-1 requirement. So I must be missing something. Any advice would be great.. |
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Just want to flag interest for this as well. Randomizing by genre is usually how I like to listen to my library. Ps. You're doing awesome work on MA everyone! |
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One plus for this, in my opinion its a must have - hopefully it will soon be picked up by the awesome devs who created this great product. |
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+1 from me too on this feature (similar to the already stated reasons: I have a reasonably well tagged library and usually I feel like a certain genre and then select further from there) |
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Just for some fun info in this topic. Tidal do not have genre as a field on any of the music on their service. |
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I'm just another user hoping for this feature to be added to Music Assistant. |
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As a local NAS user, being able to launch a shuffle of a specific genre is the only major feature missing for me. |
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Genre support will come to MA eventually but if we do this, we want to do it right. Genres are horrible and not uniform across the industry and a complete disaster on streaming providers. My idea to this when implementing it, is to go all-in and make a matching pattern so you can decide what genres (from whatever bucket) merge into what final genre. Because MA has support for multiple music providers and metadata sources, this is not as easy as you may think. We currently have some other stuff to handle higher in priority but I truly think the full Genre support is something that could potentially land in 2.6 or 2.7 so within a couple of months time. |
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Genre would be awesome! I have a large CD collection that I have ripped to my NAS with all of this set and in my previous thick-client media player I loved to be able to play random tracks in a given Genre for a party, etc. Like holiday time being able to do this simply by playing random tracks in the genre vs. having to build a full playlist. You are spot on when you mentioned aggregating genres from different sources is a nightmare. I think your approach is an excellent one where me as the end user can define the Genres I wish to use and then provide the mapping from the different music sources into the genres I wish to use is a elegant approach. I can see where you would build a Genera list from each music source (including local file shares) that you would periodically update would be the start, then allowing the end user to either 'keep the genre' which creates a direct mapping, or to map it to a different one. Then with each update of the music provider list, indicate new genres that need to be mapped, perhaps raise it as a notice of 'needs attention' so that the end user can stay on top of their mappings. Perhaps raise this as notices in Home Assistant? It could be a similar approach to tagging in Home Assistant. |
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Kinda of the same request as https://github.com/orgs/music-assistant/discussions/4165 I was really surprised not to see such essential functionality not present in this otherwise rich project. Availability of metadata for sorting, filtering etc. should really be possible so a +1 from me. |
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Navidrome / Jellyfin user here with a personal local music library (carefully tagged and maintained). I'm just researching MA and wanted to post my 2 cents regarding Genres. A cool Genre support is one of the big shortcomings in all music servers I tried so far. I have manually tagged genres for my library, they are pretty broad (house, rock, pop, rap, christmas etc) and are 100% consistent across all my library. When I start a listening session I'm mostly thinking what I'm in mood for (genre-wise) then dig into the collections for that specific genre. It's like a book library: most of us think about a genre first when researching a new book or start reading a new one. We navigate the physical book library based on genres first ... and not other criteria. I think a Music server should provide the same experience to music listening similar to a book library. My wishlist for genre related features:
I think genres are, at least for me ... a multi-genre listener, the "foundation" of music listening experience. I don't want Metallica mixed together with Vangelis or Enya and I pretty much know from the moment I open my music app if I'm in the mood for some metal ... or just chill on some relaxing music in the background. That's why having a music navigation based on "old" paradigm of "Artists" , "Albums" , "Songs" pages that will show a messy soup of everything thrown together (with or without some filtering) .... is pretty meh Anyway ... my 2 cents. Thanks for everything you guys do ! |
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I'm willing to accept that 'there is no standard approach for genres when it comes to streaming providers', making it tricky to implement. |
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I also wonder why this couldn't just be done for local files. I currently use lyrion mainly because of the genre capability for my local files but really like the look of MA. The one big hangup is the same thing mentioned here, no genre. Lyrion does implement a genre functionality but as far as i can tell its only for local music. I dont know how implementing a genre functionality within MA makes sense for a streaming service for the reasons mentioned. Its not like id want ot play some jazz and expect the system to scan and filter every single available piece of music on Apple, Spotify, whatever to give me options. But for local music, this makes complete sense. To me this ONLY makes sense for local files. MA is a great looking piece of software and maybe it was really geared towards streaming services. Just my 0.02. |
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Also looking forward to Genre support. Is there a way to play folders in MA? I have all my Latin in a separate folder but when I click the Play button I get an error: "No playable items found" but if I go into a subfolder in LatinMusic folder and click the Play button on one of the many folders listed it will play. |
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Yes, brows by files, choose NAS, choose folder then clik on folder icon, select play. |
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Genre selection seems now to be available in the latest beta, according to the RN. I have not yet updated though but will do so in the evening 👍🏻 |
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Finally the Genres are here, and its a beauty. I see it has some default Genres, and it created Genres which MA has found in the ID3 Tags of all the (mp3) files. Now this is working nice and you can merge Genres etc, however, what I do not understand is, and maybe some devs can enlighten me: I have ID3 tags for all files and the Gerne is pulled from there - however, the artist itself, is not marked with that Genre. When you do the same in in for Example Foobar, the display logic is Genre --> Artist --> Album --> Track. In MA, its Genre --> Track unless you add the Artist to the Genre by hand, then you will have Genre --> Artist --> Album --> Track BTW, for example my logical folder structure in explorer is exactly like the displaying behaviour: Genre --> Artist --> Album --> Track. My key question to the devs is, is there a way that you can change the scanning behaviour, so that Artists are added to a Genre if their tracks are marked for that Genre too, or is the intention that the user needs to do this by him/herself? (yes, one time job, unless you crash the MA Database) After all, its a great addon and I really appreciate the effort that has been put into this, thanks heaps! 🚀 I also understand its not possible to solve all problems / serve all requirements. What I try to say is, there is huge work for the guys who have a big/bigger library - if possible, I try to minismise that. |
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Latest beta adds the option to derive genres for albums/artists from the track metadata for both local and remote file providers. The setting for this is in the provider settings. You can also exclude genres from media items for times when the auto mappings are considered unwanted/incorrect. https://github.com/music-assistant/server/releases/tag/2.8.0b19 |
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Here is my use case:
How can make MA to use the Albums Tags as i have made them myself? |
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Here is another Use case:
how can i delete the genre Classical for this playlist? |
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I try to find my way, my feedback is based on my recent user-experience: System / Plugin (not able to switch off) Would it make sense to concentrate this in one place? |
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Quick question:
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All my music has been assigned a genre. It would be nice to select by this and then by artist or album.
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