Re-charter W3C/OGC working group

[sgrellet]

The initial discussion stems from SSN/SOSA work : w3c/sdw-sosa-ssn#223

As feedback from W3C and OGC on the draft charter is being discussed it seems better to discuss the comments here as non specific to SSN/SOSA

[dr-shorthair]

W3C feedback is

1. adjust name to Spatiotemporal Data Working Group - this WG is responsible for OWL-Time - two extensions are currently on the table

• Temporal relations
• Temporal aggregates

2. add GeoDCAT to the targets or deliverables

Temporal work could also refer to the pending OGC Abstract Spec - Topic 25

[chris-little]

@dr-shorthair Is there a consensus on spatiotemporal versus spatio-temporal? I think this is a rather minor but important point!

1. Wikipedia seems to have only a short, older, article on the former portmanteau.
2. Paper dictionaries seem to prefer the latter, as they view it as a neologism.
3. The OGC API-EDR standard was sloppily split between both, and we've just done an edit to go for the hyphenated latter, as it seemed better English English, and doesn't seem to cause any problems with editting tools or search engines.

[ldesousa]

@dr-shorthair Is there a consensus on spatiotemporal versus spatio-temporal? I think this is a rather minor but important point!

1. Wikipedia seems to have only a short, older, article on the former portmanteau.
2. Paper dictionaries seem to prefer the latter, as they view it as a neologism.
3. The OGC API-EDR standard was sloppily split between both, and we've just done an edit to go for the hyphenated latter, as it seemed better English English, and doesn't seem to cause any problems with editting tools or search engines.

Chris, I am not a native speaker, but I would expect my high school teacher to mark "spatiotemporal" as incorrect. High school was quite a while ago though.

[bert-github]

I thought it was British vs American spelling. And as W3C uses American English, I chose the version without a hyphen.

But I can easily change it. If that works better with spell checkers, search engines or other software, or if people find it easier to read, that's a good enough reason.

[chris-little]

@bert-github Is probably correct. The only other fuel to add to the fire is that the online Oxford English Dictionary quotes sources for both, covering the last 100 years or so, and the hyphens dominate, but perhaps not so much recently. I find the hypenated spelling much easier to read and type.

[TallTed]

+1 for the hyphen.

[dr-shorthair]

I don't have strong feelings either way. They both communicate the same sense.

[rjksmith]

WebVMT Update

I can confirm that WebVMT is still under active development, as detailed in the W3C Strategy Funnel issue and SDW mailing list.

I’m aiming to achieve a number of goals for WebVMT within the next charter period, including:

1. Update the Editor’s Draft with issues identified in the OGC Testbeds and documented in the WebVMT Community Group, including negative cue times, heading and simplified interpolation.
2. Publish a revised W3C/OGC Group Note which includes these enhancements.
3. Register IANA media type for text/vmt to address the breaking changes to text/vtt which are already supported by HTML.
4. Publish the HTML DataCue API proposed in WICG in collaboration with W3C Media & Entertainment IG.

Section 3.1 of the draft charter states that "existing specifications are in scope for potential maintenance” and explicitly lists WebVMT, which may be sufficient provided that this covers the four goals above.

Can someone confirm this please? Thanks

I'm concerned that the JWOC reference does not appear in the draft charter. My understanding is that this enables OGC members to participate in W3C activities as Invited Experts, which is critical to successfully achieving these four goals.

[dr-shorthair]

@rob-metalinkage @ldesousa @bert-github I think this ball is in your court.

[ldesousa]

@rjksmith Those goals fall within the scope. Naturally, some of those activities do not depend solely on the SDWWG, but you can well consider it as the "home" for WebVMT development and maintenance.

As for the JWOC, I never heard of it before, and from what I can tell it existed solely as an informal construct (@rob-metalinkage correct me here please). However, the new charter states clearly in the Scope section: "Work with OGC Standard Working Groups to jointly develop, maintain and promote geospatial Web standards". By and the large, the SDWWG already works in close coordination with the GeoSemantics DWG of the OGC, and is the spirit of the charter to keep it that way.

[rjksmith]

@ldesousa Excellent. Many thanks for your confirmation and ongoing support. I can confirm that other W3C/OGC groups will certainly be involved, and I'll continue to report progress on these activites to SDW.

@ogcscotts may be able to shed more light on the details of JWOC.