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uid: P000227
name: Has a discrete closed set of size $\mathfrak c$
name: Has a discrete closed subset of size $\mathfrak c$
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$X$ has a discrete closed set of cardinality $\mathfrak c=2^{\aleph_0}$.

*Note*: Discrete closed sets are exactly the sets with no limit point in $X$.
*Note*: The discrete closed sets are exactly the subsets with no limit point in $X$.

*Note*: This property implies $e(X)\ge\mathfrak c$,
where the *extent* $e(X)$ is the supremum of the cardinality of discrete closed sets in $X$.
But there are spaces with $e(X)=\mathfrak c$ and without discrete closed set of cardinality $\mathfrak c$,
But, under certain set-theoretic assumptions (for example, if $\mathfrak c=\aleph_{\omega_1}$),
there are spaces with $e(X)=\mathfrak c$ and without discrete closed set of cardinality $\mathfrak c$,
i.e., where the supremum is not attained.

Compare with these properties, where $D$ denotes a discrete closed set in $X$:
- {P107} $(\exists D: |D|=1)$
- {P21} $(\forall D: |D|<\aleph_0)$
- {P198} $(\forall D: |D|\le\aleph_0)$

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#### Meta-properties

- This property is preserved in any finer topology.
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space: S000009
property: P000227
value: true
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Let $p$ be the particular point. $X\setminus\{p\}$ is a closed and discrete subspace of cardinality $\mathfrak c$.
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space: S000057
property: P000227
value: true
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$X \setminus \mathbb Q$ is a closed and discrete subset of cardinality continuum.
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space: S000060
property: P000227
value: true
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The subspace $\mathbb R\setminus\mathbb Q$ is closed discrete with cardinality $\mathfrak c$.
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space: S000063
property: P000227
value: true
refs:
- mathse: 740095
name: Bijection between closed uncountable subset of $\mathbb R$ and $\mathbb R$
---

Let $\{q_n: n\in\mathbb N\}=\mathbb Q$.
Consider the set
$L = \mathbb R\setminus \bigcup_{n\in \mathbb N} (q_n-2^{-n},q_n+2^{-n})$,
which is closed in {S25} and hence closed in the finer topology of $X$.
It is discrete in $X$, as a subset of the irrational numbers.
And it is uncountable since its Lebesgue measure is infinite (its complement is of finite measure).
Since every uncountable closed set in {S25} has cardinality $\mathfrak c$
(consequence of the Cantor-Bendixson theorem, see for example {{mathse:740095}}),
it follows that $|L|=\mathfrak c$.
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space: S000064
property: P000227
value: true
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The subspace $X \setminus D$ is closed discrete with cardinality $\mathfrak c$.
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space: S000068
property: P000227
value: true
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The subspace $\mathbb R\times\{0\}$ is closed and discrete with cardinality $\mathfrak c$.
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space: S000070
property: P000227
value: true
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The subspace $L$ is closed and discrete with cardinality $\mathfrak c$.
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space: S000074
property: P000227
value: true
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The subspace $\mathbb R\times\{0\}$ is closed and discrete with cardinality $\mathfrak c$.
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space: S000076
property: P000227
value: true
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The closed set $\{(x,-x):x\in\mathbb R\}$ is a discrete subspace with cardinality $\mathfrak c$.
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space: S000085
property: P000198
value: false
property: P000227
value: true
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The set of origins is a closed and discrete subspace of cardinality $2^\mathfrak c$.
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space: S000086
property: P000227
value: true
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The subspace $\mathbb{R}{\times}\{1\}$ is closed and discrete with cardinality $\mathfrak c$.
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space: S000091
property: P000227
value: true
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The subspace $L_0$ is closed and discrete with cardinality $\mathfrak c$.
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space: S000102
property: P000227
value: true
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The subspace $\mathbb R \times \{0\}^\omega$ is closed discrete with cardinality $\mathfrak c$.
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space: S000110
property: P000198
value: false
property: P000227
value: true
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By construction, $M$ is a closed discrete subspace of $X$. There are $2^\mathfrak{c}$ free ultrafilters on $\omega$, i.e., $|M| = 2^\mathfrak{c}$.
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space: S000129
property: P000227
value: true
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$A=\{x\in X: \|x\|=1/2\}$ is a closed discrete subset of $X$ of cardinality $\mathfrak c$.
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space: S000133
property: P000227
value: true
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The subspace $V_0 \setminus V_1$ is closed discrete with cardinality $\mathfrak c$.
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space: S000134
property: P000198
value: false
property: P000227
value: true
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Every circle $C_a=\{(x,y)\mid x^2+y^2=a^2\}$ is closed, as the space is finer than the {S176}, and discrete, as balls $B_\epsilon(x)$ contain at most one point of $C_a$ whenever $\epsilon\le a$.
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space: S000135
property: P000198
value: false
property: P000227
value: true
refs:
- zb: "0386.54001"
name: Counterexamples in Topology
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This topology is finer than {S134},
(cf. item #1 for space #141 in {{zb:0386.54001}})
and {S134|P198}.
and {S134|P227}.
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space: S000175
property: P000227
value: true
refs:
- doi: 10.2307/2315929
name: Problem 5468 of The American Mathematical Monthly
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Contains a closed discrete subspace $\{(x,y):x^2+y^2=1\}$ of cardinality $\mathfrak c$.
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property: P000227
value: true
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The subspace $D \times \{0\}$ is closed discrete with cardinality $\mathfrak c$.
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space: S000214
property: P000198
value: false
property: P000227
value: true
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The subset $\{f\in X: f(\lambda)=0\text{ for }\lambda\in[\omega,\omega_1)\}$
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property: P000227
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$D$ is a closed discrete subspace of $X$ of size $\mathfrak{c}$.
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Since $\aleph_0 < \mathfrak{c} = 2^{\aleph_0}$.
If $X$ has a closed discrete subset of size continuum,
its extent satisfies $e(X)\ge\mathfrak c>\aleph_0$.

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The converse is independent of ZFC. It is true iff CH holds.